Shade is more like an undead, incorporeal creature. Drows are not this. This name definately needs changed to fit the race better. Like with Nephil, it's pretty much the same as a Seraph with the exception of having black, feathery wings and being more demonic in intent. Since Drow and Elf are the anti- of eachother, shouldn't the remort be the same?

But darling you are so beautiful sitting in the window. :)

hell im just greatful we got rid of being called windowTreatments (shades)

hey anything to get me wings Grin

adds her two gold pieces

I like seraph personally, though there were a coupl on that list that sounded kewl, Ilvaner or what ever, I didnt cut and paste, but like I said, I think Seraph is just fine also.

Don't make me start poking with a stick, people.

Here are possible suggestions for both Elf and Drow remorts. While not great, it is a start. Modity as needed.

Elf:

Ellavim

Ilvanir

Vanir

Hyliphi

Drow:

Du'ar

Darlor

D'kyva

Vardal

I still say Nephil!

There's some great suggestions here. I'm going to stay out of the discussion myself just so that I don't influence people one way or another just based on what I think. But I just wanted to throw in a brief comment over what Ri and Myth said (great thoughts from both you guys on this topic). We should try to pick something that goes in with the drow race.

Remember the drow can be considered complementary to the elf. This doesn't mean that every ability of the drow is the exact opposite of every ability of the elf, or anything like that, but every evil/good race has a bit of a complement race which has a similar background theme: drow/elf, slayer/vampire, sith/dragon, mino/titan. The theme of the drow/elf pair is that they're very elegant, intelligent and dextrous with a strong ability to manipulate magic.

The drow are darker in both appearance and intent than the elves: they are more eeevil. But they are still very graceful and physically beautiful. So a name that reflects that would be cool, if you were to call it a hobgoblin or something that wouldn't go with the race really :)

And yeah they do have black feathery wings. They arn't quite as big as the seraph's wings because the drow are a little bit smaller (not way smaller but a little less in height). Think raven feathers, seraphs I've always pictured with white or perhaps golden colored wings, like the phoenix.

Hope it helps. Once we have a few more suggestions we'll put up a poll with the choices so people can vote on their favourite.

:)

Cheers

Now, look at Nephil. Most of us know it's meaning, if not, Fallen Angel. The opposite of Seraph.

Nephil, or Nephilim would be fine by me. Nephil is more fitting though.

Incubus/Succubus is a little too off for me. Something about going from a dark elf kind of thing to a demon who, uh, makes nightly visits.. Yeah, I have to pass; it's a little too dark for my tastes. ..Can you imagine those racial skills, though?

Djinn? It seems rather undrowlike to me, and it was, once upon a time, an immortal rank, and so I'm not fond of the idea of giving it away just because a better name couldn't be found.

..I have no idea what a Lillin is, but it sounds pretty. :P

Nephil seems fairly relevant, but I know a lot of current drow aren't exactly fond of it, either. It came up a while back when the name was being deliberated, as did Shur. I don't know if fondness for either has grown since the uberdrow became Specters.

What about a new, unique race? I remember ages ago, the discussion came up on how the drow remort would be described, physically, and there was talk of greater drow with black feathered wings, etc. We were basically inventing how they could look without using some sort of established reference. Is it absolutely necessary that we choose a race that is commonly, or uncommonly, known, or could something be designed for this purpose? …Creates more work for the imms La la la.. :D