Recruiting techiques

[Ardghal]

That's just flat out dirty.

[RedRaven]

<quote author="Elmah">@Elmah:

That's just flat out dirty.</quote>

No, just flat out Arkain :)

[Arkain]

<quote author="RedRaven">@RedRaven:

Also, just to let u know.

Arkain doesnt even keep his end of the bargain.

Tommi's pouch was sacced before he left DO, even though he had done everything Arkain had asked.</quote>

Tommi didnt keep his part so that ment me keeping the pouch :) he was suspsoe to get some pneuma and show me he wasnt just gonna leave when i have him back the pouch (which i knew he would have) so i kept it until he proved he was a good member :wink:

[Jazelle]

<quote author="Arkain">@Arkain:

<quote author="RedRaven">@RedRaven:

Also, just to let u know.

Arkain doesnt even keep his end of the bargain.

Tommi's pouch was sacced before he left DO, even though he had done everything Arkain had asked.</quote>

Tommi didnt keep his part so that ment me keeping the pouch :) he was suspsoe to get some pneuma and show me he wasnt just gonna leave when i have him back the pouch (which i knew he would have) so i kept it until he proved he was a good member :wink:</quote>

You don't have good members by threating people. Why both having people in your church if all you can do to hold them is by threats. That is a great way to have people who will backstab you every chance they get.

[Ardghal]

She's right, bro. The members you achieve through these methods will be quite disloyal and probably would jump at every single chance to royally screw you. You may find one who seems loyal, but he will attempt to gain your trust until you make him a leader or something, and then you know what he'll do? He'll take over and disband. I should know >_>

You might want to rethink strategies. For the record, when I was in Dark Order, I was loyal… Then you started screwing my friends again so I left...

Anyhow, enough drama.

[RedRaven]

You gave the pouch to someone, long before he did anything to not keep his end of the bargain, and they sacced it.

[tommi]

Well as the Horses Mouth(ASS) i should add into this debate and settle a few things.

Firstly i idid all that i was asked, stay 2 weeks and you get all your eq back was what i was told, after 2 days i stole the relics from MoI and was promoted within the church ranks and given all my eq less the pouch back and that i would have my pouch back in the same time frame,

after 2 weeks i was told that the pouch was being used by another member who droped it and saced it by accident, and i still stayed even tho my pouch was gone, screwed over MoI a few more times for some relics , donated 200K gold 300 Pneuma and 1 mil Dp into D/O, even tho i was needing 5K pneuma for a multi that was not far away.

So i think that i have done more than enough to hold my end of this deal, most would have pissed off when thier prised quest eq was gone but I STAYED, and would have continued to do so. I was never asked to donate any amount of pneuma, and would have done so as soon as i had enought to multi, i had donated over 50K pneuma to MoI so that was never a bother to me.

Ok well thats my side of the story, you all can make up your own minds about this.

[Spunky]

No offense but you were pretty dumb about the whole thing. You should have just taken your eq back and left. You shouldn't have deposited anything. It was obvious you weren't getting that pouch back. And i can almost guarantee that the "member" didnt drop it/sac it.

[Soth]

agreed…

something else tommi didnt give alot of thought to..the fact you were fucking other ppl over while doing it in the name of dork odor...now, those people are out to fuck you. you made a shitload of enemies and ppl who know you cant be trusted for one single item you pretty much knew you were never getting back.

the whole idea of recruiting by arkain is bc he knows anyone who is any good, really doesnt want to join. no one's stepped up and said his church was worth a crap, because people just dont like him. he's nice one minute, and then slits your throat the next. (doesnt that sound like someone we used to know before that stopped giving a shit..but he has class grin)

the bottom line is, killing someone to coax them into joining your church never works. it pisses ppl off, and eventually, those ppl get bigger and stronger. now, take a few dozen ppl arkain has fucked over bc he's an ass, mix them together when they become 120 remorts, add just a pinch of cpk...he's making the game harder on himself. people will just start going out in packs and hunting him down. and the more he fucks ppl over, the worse its gonna get.

:)

[Spunky]

lol then you have the little people like ortheri completely preventing him from getting eq with something as simple as dispel room, irony at its best :D

[Arkain]

<quote author="Soth">@Soth:

agreed…

something else tommi didnt give alot of thought to..the fact you were fucking other ppl over while doing it in the name of dork odor...now, those people are out to fuck you. you made a shitload of enemies and ppl who know you cant be trusted for one single item you pretty much knew you were never getting back.

the whole idea of recruiting by arkain is bc he knows anyone who is any good, really doesnt want to join. no one's stepped up and said his church was worth a crap, because people just dont like him. he's nice one minute, and then slits your throat the next. (doesnt that sound like someone we used to know before that stopped giving a shit..but he has class grin)

the bottom line is, killing someone to coax them into joining your church never works. it pisses ppl off, and eventually, those ppl get bigger and stronger. now, take a few dozen ppl arkain has fucked over bc he's an ass, mix them together when they become 120 remorts, add just a pinch of cpk...he's making the game harder on himself. people will just start going out in packs and hunting him down. and the more he fucks ppl over, the worse its gonna get.

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i have never fucked anyone over :) nice try tho.. legal cpkin isnt fucking ppl over :>

[Soth]

yes arkain..we know EVERY cpk you've ever done, in fact every kill you've ever done…has been 100% legal and above board.

otherwise, you wouldnt have the rep you have as a cheating piece of shit, wouldnt have been frozen (how many times now?), and anything else that falls under those lines.

rolls eyes

its not like it matters...just saying, dont try and make yourself out to be some honest person when you demonstrate how you arent at every given opportunity. again, shrugs

[RedRaven]

And by allowing the pouch to be sacce (yes u allowed it by giving it to another churchie) you f'ed him over plain and simple,

[Arkain]

<quote author="Soth">@Soth:

yes arkain..we know EVERY cpk you've ever done, in fact every kill you've ever done…has been 100% legal and above board.

otherwise, you wouldnt have the rep you have as a cheating piece of shit, wouldnt have been frozen (how many times now?), and anything else that falls under those lines.

rolls eyes

its not like it matters...just saying, dont try and make yourself out to be some honest person when you demonstrate how you arent at every given opportunity. again, shrugs</quote>

i have been frozen 2 times,…... i bet thats less then you or any other 120 here

[Arkain]

<quote author="RedRaven">@RedRaven:

And by allowing the pouch to be sacce (yes u allowed it by giving it to another churchie) you f'ed him over plain and simple,</quote>

Tommi never proved himself to me for being a goodl member so i wasnt gonna give it back until then…. i still have the pouch in my locker its not like thats the first one ive cpked.. and i told this to tommi

[Ithilidin]

You preset the terms to which he would get everything back. You renigged on the deal, making you dishonourable and untrustworthy. No one will ever be a good clannie under threat of blackmail.

[Arkain]

<quote author="Ithilidin">@Ithilidin:

You preset the terms to which he would get everything back. You renigged on the deal, making you dishonourable and untrustworthy. No one will ever be a good clannie under threat of blackmail.</quote>

You didnt know the deal we had so dont act like you know whats ghoing on

[RedRaven]

<quote author="Arkain">@Arkain:

<quote author="Soth">@Soth:

yes arkain..we know EVERY cpk you've ever done, in fact every kill you've ever done…has been 100% legal and above board.

otherwise, you wouldnt have the rep you have as a cheating piece of shit, wouldnt have been frozen (how many times now?), and anything else that falls under those lines.

rolls eyes

its not like it matters...just saying, dont try and make yourself out to be some honest person when you demonstrate how you arent at every given opportunity. again, shrugs</quote>

i have been frozen 2 times,…... i bet thats less then you or any other 120 here</quote>

I have NEVER been frozen for anything. So you lose that bet Arkain.

And my alt has only been frozen once for something minor and not necesarily illegal just questionable. So even throwing in all my alts, you have been frozen more times than me, SO what were we betting?

[Soth]

ark..you really dont know whats up.

Neither soth, nor any character i have ever had, have ever been frozen, for any reason (i dont include when we were hacked and ppl were frozen, that was completely different) and never have i been punished with soth or any character i have, for cheating or "mistakingly using bugs". in fact, syn and ertai i am sure can attest to the fact that i'd ask them if something was illegal first. not all of us choose to seek out ways of getting around the rules, and you very well know i'm a fucking rules lawyer, and believe they apply to all…i take ppl who disregard the rules bc they wanna cheat, or bc they want an unfair advantage, very seriously.

so next time, before you say "o, i've been frozen twice, but you ppl are worse", remember when you point a finger at someone, every other finger you have points right back at you. in this case, i dont even get one, since i've never been disciplined.

Soth.