The Unabridged Discourse on Racial Comparison
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Avatar is just blah. Look up Avatar and see the descriptions on Yahoo. I was toying with Ascendant(s) a state or position of dominant power or importance. It sounds much better in m opinion.
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Elves…
Iron is their only vuln, and how many weapons are actually made of iron on the game? From the opinions I've gathered it doesn't do a lot anyway. They need a real vuln... After all they get highest stats in the game... and they barely have less mana than lich, yet have both more mv AND hp. I'll grant you they get no immunities, but still. Resisting magic is pretty big-- if that works, Even if not there should be something decently exploitable to counter the giant stats. As far as a vuln goes... No idea really. Something involving darkness or anti-tree or something like that...
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They get the second highest stats in the game.
Lich has first.
The have second lowest hp, to counter this. Mana doesn't do much if you can't get the hp to survive. You should know this as a Lich and those horrendous vulns, which I have suggested be changed for the better rather than worse.
Magic resistance only works against weapons, which is almost all weapon, at the moment, due to a "feature" of the game as it stands. That will be fixed in the update. And since we have no idea how useful this will be, how can anyone say that it needs to be exploited? Their only other advantage is natural haste, which we do not get the extra dex bonus.
Before you want to go Elf hunting because you are ticked at someone let's find out how things will work in the future update and then balance that against humans before even bothering suggesting things that don't need to be.
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<quote author="Ithilidin">
@Ithilidin:Before you want to go Elf hunting because you are ticked at someone let's find out how things will work in the future update and then balance that against humans before even bothering suggesting things that don't need to be.</quote>
That was seriously uncalled for. I'm just stating I don't believe their one vuln is very exploitable.
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Uncalled for? I do not think so. Worded strongly, perhaps. You singled out one race to be "exploited." What about dwarves with their useless vulnerability and many decent resistances? Dracons and their underutilized vulnerablity? Or, to even lesser extents, the uncommon vulnerabilities of slayers, which is found on two weapons and one spell, or titans, which is found on one weapon, that no longer is available to players, and two spells. Evil players and the lich race are well represented in the game. All of this has been addressed in the misbalance thread at some point or another.
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Meh, just mentioning that one atm… Came to me while looking at helpfiles
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<quote author="Ithilidin">
@Ithilidin:Uncalled for? I do not think so. Worded strongly, perhaps. You singled out one race to be "exploited." What about dwarves with their useless vulnerability and many decent resistances? Dracons and their underutilized vulnerablity? Or, to even lesser extents, the uncommon vulnerabilities of slayers, which is found on two weapons and one spell, or titans, which is found on one weapon, that no longer is available to players, and two spells. Evil players and the lich race are well represented in the game. All of this has been addressed in the misbalance thread at some point or another.</quote>
Actually theres 3 negative weapons, one 117 , two 120s. And the 120 weapons do over 400 damage. If you can find something that does higher to any other race feel free to let me know. And I believe you have curse of the abyss.
And while I am bitching, something beyond ironic is the fact that almost every undead mob in the game does negative damage.
The slayer is the ultimate of holy warriors; it is
a special sect that wishes to seek out the undead and
put an end to their measly existence. Years of training
under the parish and with clerical assistance the Slayer
develops a technique of damaging the undead beyond repair.
Slayers have for centuries despised vampires as the most
lowly undead creatures.
If you guys want to be useful how about coming up with a vulnerability that makes sense for slayers.
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350 ave damage, last I remember, two-handed, which I hope that the idea of weapon speed and accuracy are considered and implemented, so that won't be as much of a bother in the future. You are screwed against a titan at the moment. And I am trying to get energy drain removed from curse of the abyss, if you remember right. Actually, I am trying to get rid of all spells from bards.
I know all about the now. It is the the future I want to see fixed.
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Actually the best weapon does 15d49 (375 life drain.) with natural hr 5 dr 5.
About 469 per hit.
Im all for removing bard spells, but to be frank thats a serious change and will require some serious creativity to come up with songs that are interesting, and hopefully some better song names :P
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Object 'sword staugaard' is type weapon, extra flags glow magic anti-evil kept.
Weight is 10, value is 120000, level is 120.
Fragility is Normal, condition is 100%. It has been repaired 0/5 times.
It is made out of unknown.
Weapon type is sword with attack type slash.
Damage is 15d49 (average 375).
Weapons flags: two-handed
life drain? where?
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:twisted:
I had to say that PK fights do last too short compared to olden days. Olden days rocked.. and WERE a test of mana and skill strategy. Please think about this.. and change the game issues to make PK last longer and RELY more on strat.. not just mana/weapons/brute strength.
I know i'm going "back in time" here, but this issue really needs to be
stressed.
-Peace
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For being old school you dont know everything myth. Thats not the weapon and im sure not telling. :)
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